Spiritual Journies, Bodybuilding Championships, and Optimizing Digestion with Wade Lightheart

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He's an advisor to the American anticancer Institute. He's acofounder and president at BiOptimizers and he's a vegetarian he's one of theworld's premier authorities on natural nutrition and training methods. And hemajored in sports science at university of new Brunswick. He's authorednumerous books on health, nutrition, and exercise.

And has sold them in over 80 countries. I want you guys towelcome to the show. Wade Lightheart who over the past couple of months hasbecome quite a good friend. I enjoy his company's products and we get into someof that today, but we touch mostly on spirituality, travel all naturalbodybuilding. How vegetarian comes into play here and why digestion became hismain focus.

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Wade, this is a conversation that I want to have for a longtime. So thank you for coming on the show.

Wade Lightheart: [00:05:47]Great to be here. Thank you.

Boomer Anderson: [00:05:49]So. When you and I were introduced, we had a pretty long discussion about not,w not about some of the things we're going to cover later today, but abouttravel. And, uh, I've heard a number of your interviews.

And one of the things that you've talked about before was,uh, kind of this, you know, desire to go out and meet spiritual masters, butalso travel. And because both you and I come from North America, what made youdecide to hit the road?

Wade Lightheart: [00:06:20]Great question. So first and foremost, I grew up in a very rural environmentand extremely restricted, uh, not just in the location, but also I would say inthe thinking and.

I was really frustrated. And so my very first plane trip wasactually when I was 22 years old, I took a train, a plane from new Brunswick,Canada, which is a little province next to Maine. And I had it and I was onstandby ticket. One way. It was when I finally left, quote unquote went Westyoung man, and I did, I did the jump to Montreal, Toronto.

Um, Winnipeg. Calgary and Vancouver, it was like standbyflight, like just absolute milk run of Canada. And, but at the, but at the endof it, like it's the end of the day and I'm, um, I'm in Vancouver, Canada. Andprior to that, I had like, my dad was like a road warrior. And so everywhere wewent, my dad drove and we'd have to beg him.

To just stop to pee gas station or whatever, like, causewe've got a mic good time. And I went, wait a second. I've just been to everymajor city in Canada. I had breakfast in the morning on the East coast and I'mhaving lunch in the afternoon on the West coast. Thanks at the time zone shift.And I'm like, I in, this is the way to travel.

And so I, you know, my, I went to California right afterthat. I took a bus a minute train and, and lived in California for a littlewhile. Uh, you know, just experimenting that the hostile world. And I went intoa hostel hostel,

Boomer Anderson: [00:08:03]and I remember sitting California.

Wade Lightheart: [00:08:05]Yeah. I was 22 years old. I was in Venice beach, California.

And. Uh, I was staying at this hostel called Jim's at thebeach, which was right next to where Jim Morrison used to live. Oh. And

Boomer Anderson: [00:08:17]like Morrison hotel.

Wade Lightheart: [00:08:20]Yeah, yeah,

Boomer Anderson: [00:08:22]yeah,

Wade Lightheart: [00:08:23]yeah. It was amazing. He was a poet and kind of all that part of that wholeculture and. I, I was, you know, seeing my idol. I went to Joe Gold, met JoeGold and all this kind of things, but I'm sitting at a, at a time cable with,uh, probably seven or eight people.

And everybody was from some other part of the planet andcoming from a place where you didn't see it, anybody from anywhere in thisrural environment, Canada, very restricted. All of a sudden I was hearing aboutall these far off places and the experiences and the accents of these people inthe cultural valleys.

And, and I. Was so enamored with that idea. I was like, wow,there's so many places to go see in the world and things to see, and I want toexperience those things. And so, you know, as years went by, I ended up, um,working when I went back to Vancouver and started my business under the adviceof Joe Gold, who told me don't stay here, California,

Boomer Anderson: [00:09:24]just for people who don't know, Joel Gold is Gold's gym.

Wade Lightheart: [00:09:28]Right? Yeah, Gold's gym and world's gym. So he found a Gold's gym. He soldthat. And then he was kind of angry that Gold's did so well that he createdworld dream as well to start that franchise. So it's kind of a funny story, butyeah, kind of one of the godfathers of the gym industry, um, and. He gave mesome advice.

He said, you know, go home and get yourself togethereconomically. Cause the city will eat you up. And he was probably right. So Itook his advice. I went to Vancouver and started my career in health andfitness, working in stores and stuff. But I always had this dream and one of myclients, I became a personal trainer and one of my clients turned out to be.

At the time, one of the leading off shore investment advisorsof the entire world, and we developed a fantastic friendship and he's still amentor of mine today. And he had told me, like he had wrote books about allthese countries and different business codes and taxes. And I found this like,wow, exposed to all these ideas and keep in mind, this is, you know, almost 25years ago.

And. I, uh, when Matt and I started the precursor to ourbusiness that we have today, and I had competed at the mr universe and went toIndia and got that exposure. And, you know, it was wonderful. We had theopportunity to work from home digitally and, and a lot of people today areexperiencing that. Now there've been forced into this world that we went into,you know, 16, 17 years ago.

And. After about eight, 18 months, we decided that we weregoing to take up this idea as Canadians and we could move to a foreignjurisdiction and see what that was like. So we decided that we were going tomove to Panama and experience that. And we learned, I mean, we did everythingwrong. It was just a total disaster.

We took 30 Pimsleur lessons on how to speak Spanish. Figuredwe have it down. We get down there and realize that we are super ill equippedto understand anything.

Boomer Anderson: [00:11:26]Yeah. What's it like studying or starting a business and sort of a foreigncountry for the first time?

Wade Lightheart: [00:11:32]Well, the good thing was is that we had an online business and move to aforeign jurisdiction, but I would say that the.

The, the, the number one word I would say is. Pedestrian. Ithink as North Americans, we are very ignorant to the centuries of systems andprocesses that we take advantage of every single day, whether we're going tothe store or going to a post office, going to a banking system that is reallypart of the culture.

Of the industrialized democracies of West, when you move toa banana Republic or to a culture that doesn't necessarily have that systembuilt in place for hundreds of years, you know, you might have the techknowledge you have today, but you have a, uh, a culture. It doesn't matter.Recognize any of those values.

Yeah. So manana. I learned doesn't actually mean the literaltranslation translation of tomorrow. It means just not today.

Boomer Anderson: [00:12:33]You're not going to get it tomorrow morning. You're going to probably get it ina couple of weeks kind of thing.

Wade Lightheart: [00:12:37]And if you're lucky, maybe never, depending on how angry you get by your levelof frustration.

Boomer Anderson: [00:12:44]So, uh, I've got quite a bit of experience living abroad, but, um, eh, Was thelevel of anger if you raised it, does that mean you get it sooner or is thatkind of have the inverse effect?

Meaning it just disappears

Wade Lightheart: [00:12:57]generally. It's the inverse, because what's interesting, especially if you goto the Asian cultures, um, in Asian culture, um, any conflict or anything thatcauses the losing of face is. Considered very crude and rude where aAmericanism let's say is like, Hey, let's get her done.

Let's fight it out. Hug it out after Yahoo high five eachother, and move on to the next thing. It's very aggressive and proactive. Yeah.Well, inside of these cultures that have existed, some of them for thousands ofyears, No, we're, we're going to do everything. And the proper people need tobe spoken to, and those need to be agreed in this process.

And what seems very redundant as just part of the structuralcomponents of that culture and that, and I came face to face with my owncultural ignorance and it took me almost a decade to really get the level of.That I really had and the level of projection that I was putting out there tohow I thought the world needs to be.

And I think that wasn't beneficial to me in the long run.Um, but although it was a frustrating learning curve.

Boomer Anderson: [00:14:06]So let's talk about that. That's very important point because I think there's alot of people right now who are either exploring living abroad or being forcedto live outside of their normal city in kind of remote areas.

What. Allowed you to kind of unveil the secrets andrecognize that projection. Was there anything in particular that you did?

Wade Lightheart: [00:14:26]Yeah, absolutely. First thing, if you're going to live abroad, so let's, let'sgo to the living abroad. Cause I think that's the more difficult challenge.Yeah. The first thing, and this was given to me as advice when you first getthere, it gets very shocking.

Uh, I got a little piece of paper like this and my mentorwho had traveled internationally before, before the internet and all that stuffto take this and write down a list of things every morning that you would liketo achieve on that particular day, so that you have some form of semblance,assemblance of order, and that you're getting your thoughts.

Together and okay, let's do this unless it let's get somewins because simplest tasks are often very complicated and that's number one.Number two is get connected to some form of ex Pat community, your ex Patcommunity, whether that is a coworking space or a more formal expat community,depending on where you're going.

You know, what level of experience that you want to have?These are the people who have just. Recently gone through everything thatyou're experiencing. So they're going to be able to. Alleviate some of what Icall the, the, the, uh, I call it the idiot tax. When you do not know the rulesof the culture, the economics of a culture, it's many cultures say, aha, youknow, here here's a guy from America or Canada.

It's party time. We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna comeoff. We're going to charge him more. We're going to take them on an adventure.We're going to get lonely, all these things. So you need to get up to speed asfast as possible, and to also alleviate as a sense of, you have to understandhow that person's seeing the world, that person may be struggling.

All their life and sees this is an easy score and it's,it's, it's their value that they need to get that extra money from you or thatextra situation, because it's their duty to their family in order to do this.And so rather than see it as I'm being taken advantage of, you have to see itas eyes of, Hey, Alex, guide us making a buck.

And when you generally, when you call them out on it and youknow, the score, they go, Oh, okay. He's. He's figured it out. Fine. We kind ofgo on that. Um, but so that's the first thing. Second thing, if you can make,um, if you can get connected with what I would call, uh, an entrepreneurialeffective local, and what that means is there's always people in every culturewho will learn your language, your, you know, your, your, your base language,because they represent, Hey, you know what, if I can be serviced to thesepeople, I know that I'm going to do really well for myself.

And so, yeah. My successes in my field, in the variousplaces that I've lived are directly correlated to how quickly I get a communityto figure out what's going on. Like ex-pats and how quickly I was able to builda relationship with a local who could help me navigate the ins and outs of thatculture, whether that was getting a bank account, whether that was, you know,being able to mail something or bring or ship something in, or those things,those two things.

Make the ease and whether they're negotiating contracts foryou or whatever, and keep in mind, they're probably going to make some money onthe side and they're gonna be, and believe me, that's money well spent. Youwant to take care of that person as best as possible, because they're going tobe your best ticket to integrating with the nuances of the culture that youdon't know.

Boomer Anderson: [00:17:53]I mean, it's so true. And I think what's interesting is like I moved toSingapore when I was 25 and it was one of the easier moves because, you know,Singapore is very ex-pat friendly. Right. And then I moved to the Netherlandswhen I was 30. And that was actually harder because even though it's, ex-patfriendly, the entire government operates in, in Dutch.

And I don't know about you, but my Dutch is pretty. Awful.It it's that whole, uh, that whole experience that you just went through. Like,I went through that as soon as I moved to the Netherlands, more so than I didwhen I moved to Singapore. Um, wait, I want to talk, you mentioned India. Andso this is, uh, when this comes up, I always want to double click on that.

Cause I've spent quite a lot of time in India. What drew youthere?

Wade Lightheart: [00:18:45]Yeah. Great question. So in 1996, I read a book called autobiography of a Yogiby paramount haunts, a yoga Nanda. Okay. And what I was enthralled with that,and it's considered one of the great spiritual classics and here Yogananda wasa, uh, Yogi mystic from the East who came to the United States in 1920, rightafter world war one, he was on the first steamer from India to North America.

He has essentially is the godfather of sharing in allEastern philosophy into the world, yoga culture, Eastern for like he opened thedoor for the rest of them to come and face. An incredible amount of hardshipshas got a great video on Netflix called awake. You can kind of get an intro,his story, but his book.

Uh, was a beautiful introduction into the cultural values ofthe ancient culture of Barat, which is original name of India. India was a namethat was put on it by British colonists and it's traditional spiritual.Traditions. And what I found was he resolved all my issues with organizedreligion. So I'm like, here's a guy from another country that is, thatunderstands the Christian practices from which I grew up in the Judeo Christianfactors, better than anybody I've actually heard here and actually has anexplanation of Islam and hasn't especially of Hinduism and Buddhism, and he'sgot this, you know, Like, I need to figure out how these guys know this.

And he said, this is part of the cultural heritage of thiscountry. And it's, what's bulwark India through thousands and thousands ofyears is this tradition within the culture to venerate people who dedicatetheir life to spiritual comprehension. And I'm like, I've never heard of that.That's amazing. I need to go check this out.

And so, um, I had the good fortune in 2003, a friend ofmine, a very, very close friend of mine was having a wedding and Delhi and I'mlike, great. This oughta be fun. And so I was, uh, flew in to this event. Andof course, if anyone hasn't gone to a knitting Indian wedding, I thinkeverybody should go to wine.

Boomer Anderson: [00:20:55]It's one of those things that you have to tick the box on. Right. It's just a,it's great.

Wade Lightheart: [00:21:00]Yeah, it was absolutely insane. I mean like fire breathers and elephants, andwe were marching through the streets and there was chariots and white horsesand money being thrown and chaos and police and people dive in.

But I mean, it was the most chaotic celebration of threedays I have ever seen in my entire life. And. I was in love with it. I was inlove with the, the juxtaposition of the Indian culture, where you see theabsolute best aspects of humanity right next to the absolute worst living insome sort of chaotic harmony.

And I always, I tell the people who haven't been there, it'slike, whether you like India or hate India, it doesn't matter when you gothere. India will change your perception of the world. And that's what had happenedto me. And after that, of course, we were at a five star hotel and all expensein that.

But then I said, well, we did the try. This is a circuit. Wewent to, you know, Cosmo hall and you do the whole thing and shy poor and allthat sort of stuff. And then I went to Yogananda's Ash room. Like in Bihar,which is the poorest state and all of my Indian friends, like don't go there.

And, you know, I went to Delhi, uh, got to the old and wenton a train and it was like waited at the train station.

The train was 18 hours late. Everybody knew it. It's comingand then you get on the train and it was a problem, but, but I just had thiscrazy event and a lot of people will talk. What about the synchronicity thatends up coming out of the chaos and had these beautiful events and ended up ona train to the Hodge to go to, to, um, duction SVR, which is on the Ganges andall these kind of.

Radical wild event, where I was really riding on trains withpeople of different culture and meeting them and connecting with them andliving in Ash rooms, I lived in an ashram and to see what Astram life was likeand how people dedicate themselves. And also in kind of the five star Bollywoodkind of experience, it was just such a radical thing.

After that point, I fell in love with traveling period inthe course. You know, a year and a half later, I ended up in, in Panama withMatt. I stayed there for I think, eight or nine months, and then I was back inVancouver and then I was onto the next place, the next place. And it reallyhasn't stopped since that time.

We were kind of talking before this. I keep trying to stayin one place, but for some reason, the ball keeps rolling.

Boomer Anderson: [00:23:23]What would you say is sort of like the top couple of experiences that you'vehad as you've traveled abroad?

Wade Lightheart: [00:23:31]Oh, great question. Um, I would say maybe my all time favorite destination wasBali.

Indonesia. I'm getting, I'm getting married

Boomer Anderson: [00:23:43]there.

Wade Lightheart: [00:23:45]It's okay. It's an incredible culture, but, and I think it's, uh, it's, I, Istayed in a little place called , which a lot of people end up in. It's kind ofa traditional artist community. And there's a lot, there's a lot of coworkingspaces for, uh, you know, digital nomads sort of speaking.

Um, having traveled a lot prior to and living in differentplaces. It was probably one of the softest landings of any culture I ever wentto. So I went in, there was a well established, um, community and a placecalled the Ubud and  here were hundredsof digital entrepreneurs. There was great food. Uh, there was a great yogacommunity.

There was a great Mmm, gym culture. There was a gym culture.There, there was a business culture. There, there was ex-pats that I metrelatively quickly. Um, the Balinese people are extraordinary. They live verymuch within their own culture and their 100% acceptance of the Western culture.So there's a, there's a symbiotic relationship of almost as a kind of aseparation.

And it's in a weird way. Uh, and, and yet a merging of thosetwo ideas and, and just had everything. But I get up, I had internet, I hadconnections. I had food, I had exercise, I had everything. I had the perfectmix of everything that I wanted from the Western world with the perfect mix ofeverything and the value of the, of the Eastern world.

And, uh, to me, that's, that was, that was probably thehighlight event. Um, going to India. I went back to India about a year and ahalf ago. Um, and two did some, did some experiences in, you know, I went, Iwent up into Veranasi, which is the Holy city. I have a spiritual teacher who Iwent on, a, uh, kind of a, I don't know what you call it.

Uh, you'd go on your kind of spiritual track or whatever.And you don't want to pay homage to some of these events, to these events,pilgrimages, I guess they call them and. Having going into the temple there andseeing the level of devotion of people who are living in an absolutely brutalconditions, some of the most brutal conditions you can imagine.

Uh, definitely, uh, inspiring to see how they're able todevelop so much faith in so much devotion and so much acceptance of theharshness of life for many of these people. And, and they find a way to manageand transcend that and you go, wow, this is pretty, pretty miraculous. So thosewere definitely some of the highlights.

Um, yeah. Different reasons. I think the ease anddevelopment of the business culture in Singapore to, to, you know, start acompany. I mean, you can, you can land there in the morning. You have a bankaccount and be out by the evening, you know, uh, you know, you've got anoffice, you got a business, you got a name advantage.

No,

Boomer Anderson: [00:26:36]it's all super

Wade Lightheart: [00:26:36]efficient. Yeah. Everything works. And you know, you're onto whatever you needto do then next day, conversely, you go to a place like Panama, which is. Youknow, very much influenced by America, but the, the banking systems and thebusiness systems and the, the legal systems are just absolute, horrific to dealwith.

And so you go, wow. You know, like you would never imaginethat. Um, I also would say that, um, Various parts of Europe, uh, I think arereally when I spent some time in Prague. Okay. And that's, that's one of myfavorite cities, just sheer, because I can stand in the middle of the, down theold town downtown and see nothing but Gothic buildings and just be around with,with the, the architecture of Europe, which was mostly distort steroid in mostcities in world war two.

Boomer Anderson: [00:27:29]Yeah. So going back to Gold's gym and kind of your. Your bodybuilding career.And I may come back with another question on digital nomadism, but so you're abodybuilder and I haven't, cause there's a lot of stereotypes with bodybuildersin terms of, you know, they're going to consume and pounds of steak and all ofthis stuff, but you are a vegetarian.

And so what was the impetus for becoming vegetarian?

Wade Lightheart: [00:28:02]Great question again. So I followed all that process through, um, until 1998when I went to my first national championships. So I did a, you know, six timesa day, the Spartan like discipline, you know, the eating is probably the mostdifficult part of the bodybuilding diet.

It's just eating enough calories to create, to force growthinside your body,

Boomer Anderson: [00:28:23]if, just to give people perspective, because I think. This may be, you may bethe first bodybuilder I've had on the show. Um, what kind of calorie quantityare we talking about here?

Wade Lightheart: [00:28:34]Well, when I'm trying to gain mass, so, so for example, I'm not, I haveterrible genetics.

I was not naturally muscular or big or easily to grow. Um, Ithink in the highest forms, that's what you do need that, but you you've got toeat. Five six times a day was the culture, you know, and, and each one of thosemeals, what I was trying to gain weight would probably be anywhere between 800and 1200 calories.

Okay. So it's okay to have one or two. Of those meals a dayor three meals like that a day, maybe when you do that six times a dayconsistently over time, you're putting extraordinary demands on your digestivesystem and you're putting extraordinary demands on your physiological system aswell. And. Um, and so you do all that.

In 1998, I went to the, my first national championships andI had my coach with Scott Abel. Who's a very well renowned coach court coachedover 400 champions from like the bottom, right to the Olympia. And I remembersitting down in his office after about six weeks after that first event, whichI didn't win.

And, uh, I was about 230 pounds. I'm five foot eight on agood day. Wow. I'm about 230 pounds of veins in my abs. And, uh, and um, he'slike, okay, here's what you need to do in order to win. And that was going toentail me, really doing a lot of drugs, um, you know, things like growth, hormoneand things like that.

And I like, you know, It became a drug culture. Yeah. And Iwanna, I want just lay it out there for people as exactly what the highestlevels of. Performance sports, whether it's bodybuilding, whether it'sfootball, whether it's

believe me, people are using every single thing they can.

Boomer Anderson: [00:30:25]Everybody's looking for that edge, especially at those levels, right. You'retalking about

Wade Lightheart: [00:30:29]hundred percent, half percent

Boomer Anderson: [00:30:31]differences in people.

Wade Lightheart: [00:30:32]Yeah, and I, I really wish they would just actually just reveal what's going onin professional sports, on all levels so that people can get an accurateperception of things.

But bottom line is back then it was really taboo to talkabout. And I was like, I don't think I want to go down this road because atthat time we'd just gone from Dorian Yates. Two, two Ronnie Coleman and I'mlooking at Ronnie Coleman and I'm like,

Boomer Anderson: [00:30:54]you know, he's a freak Dorian, by the way is a huge guy too.

Wade Lightheart: [00:30:58]Yeah. And then the other thing about Dorian is I don't think he had that greatof genetics relative to the level of development achieved, but Ronnie Colemanwas just this. He, I mean, he was undefeatable. I mean, it's like, this is the,there is nobody. There's nothing I could do ever in this physiological world tobeat this guy.

So if I cannot be the best. At the sport, what am I doingthis for? Which I, I retired from competitive bodybuilding at that point andmoved to the West coast, got myself a supplement business and my personaltraining thing and started my business career, went through a down party stage.And I'm leading to the point of what I had to give you the preamble before whathappened.

And then. Essentially after the party stage, which is verysimilar to what Dorian Yates experienced after his career. Uh, it's, it'sbasically you're grieving the loss of something that you've dedicated, youknow, the better part of a decade too. And what happened is I had ametaphysical experience with yoga Nanda and began doing a meditation path.

So I started a meditation path. That was about 2000. So acouple of years I kind of was off the reservation, so to speak. And then in2001, I started reading his books on spirituality and stuff. And then I cameacross a book called the Holy science, which is written by his teacher  and he talked about the digestive system andthe nervous system and the right diet for advanced States of consciousness.

And I saw it's a pretty good argument physiologically. Letme give it a shot. So I did a two week experiment of becoming a vegetarian fortwo weeks. And I did two weeks more and it was a month. And then I said, I'lldo another month. And I did two months. And then I just said, I guess I'm done.And I haven't eaten yet.

Ever since that time. Now of course, being in the fitnessindustry, coaching other people in this world, then, you know, people are like,what do you mean you're not eating anymore? I said, I don't know. I just thinkI'm done. I'm not selling this kind of experiment. And if you like. Come on youcan't, you can't, you can't be a bodybuilding and a fitness trainer and youcan't be lean and all this sort of stuff.

And where

Boomer Anderson: [00:33:00]do you amino acids from

Wade Lightheart: [00:33:02]eggs, you know, and, and, and at the time I didn't have answers to thosequestions. And, um, I met a guy who was a vegetarian tennis star, his namealludes me at this point. And he had gone through this in the tennis world. AndI talked to him and I said, do you think it's possible?

That I could be a champion athlete as a vegetarian, and helooked at me and he goes, go do it anyway. And that's just simple answer. Justgo do it, just go. Do it. Stop. Stop the story. Stop. The, the, the, thecollective beliefs. And just go do it. So I called up my old coach. I said, HeyScott, look, I got this radical experiment idea that I want to do.

And he's like, w what is it? Wade. And I said, I wanna, Iwanna there's drug testing

now. And I want to go win a national championship. As avegetarian, he goes, you can't do it. I said, I understand that you believethat I can't do it. I'm asking for you from you is to work with me on thisexperiment to see if we can do it. And I had read a piece in, in my, in thespiritual texts that I read from yoga.

And I said that if some, if something is really right foryou and exists, and it doesn't exist, it'll be created for you. And I'm like,I'm going to put this guy to the test if this is really what I mean, I supposedto do it. And this is true, what I'm feeling. And I said side. I am going to beable to win a national championship as a veteran and, and, and realize my dreamof going to the mystery universe contest.

I had no illusions that I was going to be mr. Universe. Iknew physiologically. I probably didn't have the genetics, but I said, you knowwhat? I think I can be good enough to get to the world's best and doggone it.Let's see if I can do it. And so we did an experiment and, uh, Literally twoyears later, I was standing onside, won my national championships and I had,was, uh, went to the mr universe and it turned out that mr.

Universe ended up in India. So I ended up back in Indiaagain, uh, after that. And the ironic part of the whole story was, and a lot ofpeople don't know this. And, um, when I, my first year of competition, uh, as avegetarian and drug free athlete, I was competing against a guy by the name ofKevin Weiss, who is just an absolute.

Physical specimen. And I lost to him in that first year. Andso the next year I had to requalify for the, we went to the national champions.I'm not good enough. So I spent another year training and won the qualificationshow, won the overall in that show and then was going to the nationalchampionships that year, which Kevin would be competing at.

And I'm like, okay, I think I'm ready for him. I could takehim. It's going to be close. And we did the show. And just prior to the show,the IFB B for the first, first time in 56 years, announces that they'rechanging the weight classes. And now Kevin and I would not be in the sameweight class. He was in a different weight class.

I was in another one. We both won our titles and we both gotto go to the world championships. He actually didn't even bother going. Youforego foregoing the expense for something, but the reality is, is I don'tthink. Had I had to go head to head with them. I don't think I would have beathim. I think he was better than me, but the universe conspired in my favor.

I got to go to the, the mr. Universe and the rest ishistory. And, and from that point, and of course, then I had a major digestivehealth crisis, which started me to look into enzymes and probiotics and allthese things for your digestive health after that, because we were still doingsome things wrong. As vegetarians, trying to compete in an athletic world.

Boomer Anderson: [00:36:50]So just before we go, go on to that, you do eat eggs, right? So that earliercomment about amino acids. It's a

Wade Lightheart: [00:36:57]great question. So I have, um, I go on and off eggs periodically. So I, Ispent, um, In, in getting up for those first two years, I did whey protein atthe time. So I did, uh, just, just milk it. Didn't no eggs.

During that first two years had the major crisis digestivelyand then went to a completely raw food diet for the next two years. And, um,Then when I came back and made a come back in 2007, I actually compete, I won acouple more national championships and went to another worlds on a raw fooddiet. Well, I want it to really like, let let's go right to the absoluteextreme, but that has some, a real limitation socially.

And so since that time I've I go off and on eggs. Like rightnow I haven't had eggs in about six months. I'm doing an experiment withoutthem. Uh, so I'm, I'm. I'm not against them and I'm not here to be a vigilanteVega and I'm not here to make any comments about any of that stuff. So it'ssomething, I think there's some very big advantages for certain people to haveeggs.

And there's some people that can't. And so you have to makethose adjustments to your own tolerance.

Boomer Anderson: [00:38:08]One of the reasons why I wanted to have you on the show is because both you andyour part business partner, Matt. Have very different diets and you're notdogmatic about it, which I love. And I think one of the things I've heard yousay before is that we're all individual.

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Wade Lightheart: [00:39:48]yeah, I think, I think there's a, I have a pet peeve with the whole vegetarianworld, and that is there's these vigilante vegans, which are making these moralproclamations on everybody else in the world.

And that is certainly not any way to promote something. Evenif you believe that to be true, you obviously want to be inviting andattractive to something, but it's also just. It's just not dealing with peoplewith where they're at and what they want to achieve. And my business partner,for example, is a ketogenic guy, uh, and, and sometimes drift into the raw foodas he drifts into carnivores.

I mean, we, we, we even experiment with those extremes andI've done well on virtually every diet out there. I've been a mediator. I'vebeen a paleo guy. I've been a vegetarian, I've been a raw food. All everythingin between. The only thing I haven't done is total carnivore meat. I didn't dothat. Cause it kind of came up after a million he's experimented with it and Iget the feedback.

But what we find is what are the common elements that we canfind within these dietary aspects? And every diet has advantages and every diethas disadvantages. And, and then you have to put that over the individualgenetics, the epigenetics, the lifestyle, the social structure. And thereligious, maybe in intentions.

Cause a lot of, yeah, there's a lot of religious aspectsaround diets around the world, whether you're Jewish or Muslim or, uh, youknow, staunch Hinduism or, you know, all these have various influences. And sounderstanding those things and being able to adapt a diet so that you cannavigate life two years, right.

And be at your best and feel great and not make these kindof dogmatic decisions, compromise your health and longterm. And for everyperson I've seen. Advocating some sort of diet, you watch that person over 20years time, and guess what, 20 years from now, they're going to come back andsay, you know what?

I was really stuck in this. And then I had this crisis andthat happened. And then I had to change my belief system. So I think it's importantto remain flexible. Uh, I like being a flexitarian.

Boomer Anderson: [00:41:50]Yeah. Uh, let's talk about that digestive crisis, because this is something Iwent through myself and, uh, I would love to hear just sort of what that lookedlike so that people may be listening to this, be able to recognize that inthemselves.

Wade Lightheart: [00:42:06]Great. So as a competitive athlete, um, I was on an extremely restrictiveperformance diet and that by optimizers, we have three areas that people focuson aesthetics, performance, and health. Most people are attracted into. Thisindustry through aesthetics, they want to look good. They want to be sexuallyattractive, whatever.

And some people are attracted because they have aperformance parameter for their athletic environment, or maybe they're abusiness guy and they want to be sharp and clear that. But ultimately thetriangle always ends up at the bottom where you need to get to health. Yeah.Eventually you're fighting.

You're fighting. The degeneration of your body, you know?And so eventually at some point in that journey, your health becomes the numberone prior to the sooner you get there, the better. And you don't have to theother two, I think you can indeed. So why we look at all things? So for me,following that really performance restricted guide with the limited edition Ihad, I was taking in, I always say I was trying to apply a mediating mentalityto a vegetarian diet.

So I was pounding, you know, 250 grams of. Whey protein and,you know, in divided dosages, they're always going to that contest. And afterthat contest, I felt miserable. I ate my joints ache. I felt terrible. My brainfog all the time. Super overtrained, all that sort of stuff. I have thatcontest. I gained 42 pounds of fat and water in 11 weeks.

I went from mr. Universe to mr. Marshmallow. Wow. Right.Okay. So, so now here I am. I'm supposed to be the epitome of. Uh, aesthetic orcosmetic fitness. Right. And that's really everything that you see in the mindit's cosmetic. And I sacrificed my health. I thought that I had given that up,you know, using excessive amounts of drugs and all that stuff, which ispervasive prior to I thought, well, if I just do this diet thing and don't eatany of that stuff, I'm going to be healthy.

Wrong. No, I had a performance based diet. It wasn't ahealth diet. And what happened is I met a guy by the name of dr. Michael Brian,who is a senior set of that citizen. He had glowing skin and eyes that looksright through you. And he was super smart and he had cured all these peoplehave these radical illnesses, including cirrhosis or liver cancer for himself.

And I went up to him after his lecture and I said, look, Dr.Brian, I love the lecture. I love what you're talking about. I've never heardanything like this in my entire history of nutrition and exercise, physiologyand stuff. It's obviously working for you. What went wrong with me? Whatwhat's, what's your assessment here?

And he said, wait, this changed my life. He said, wait,you've learned to build the body from the outside in. I'm going to show you howto build the body from the inside out. And it was like, well, what's the soundof one hand clapping, you know, bang and. I just embodied it. I took massiveamounts of enzymes and probiotics and minerals and men on an alkaline diet.

You know, when Ralph did all this sort of stuff and in sixmonths I recaptured my physique. I reached, captured my health. I felt betterthan I ever felt before. And Matt and I had started a, uh, Bodybuilding business,online teaching people. And I said, Hey, look, I've got to teach. What's goingto happen to all these athletes that are just going for this cosmic look, webuilt a book called freaky big.

Naturally. We ended up coaching about 15,000 people over thenext few years and got all this metadata from all these types of people, tryingto achieve a better looking physique, a more. See your physique and we createthis amazing culture and got a lot of data. And then I was able to replicatethat in 2007, I got all that data figured out how to win championships on using85 grams of protein a day on a completely raw food diet.

Wow. Which is the most extreme version. It seems

Boomer Anderson: [00:45:34]extremely low for,

Wade Lightheart: [00:45:35]you know, It's ridiculously low, but I was able to change my digestive healthin a way that I was able to digest, absorb and utilize the food that I I waseating were prior to when I was eating 250 grams of protein, I thought I wasdigesting, absorbing and utilizing that, but that's why I ended up screwingmyself up, wrecking my enzymatic levels.

Just making my HCL go off, putting myself into gutdysbiosis. All these things was just a natural result of the diet. I wasfollowing

Boomer Anderson: [00:46:04]that. Okay. So there are. Probably a hundred different questions that I couldask off of that, but let's start with the basic principles here because, uh,you know, enzymes aren't necessarily people that are things that people look atevery single day in terms of, yeah, they're probably looking at some flashynootropic.

They're probably looking at something, uh, super, supersexy, whatever, but enzymes, how would you explain it to somebody who may justwonder, what the hell are we talking about right now? Well,

Wade Lightheart: [00:46:35]enzymes are catalysts to every single chemical reaction inside the body. Thedifference between living organisms and dead organisms is enzymatic potential.

In other words, how many chemical reactions that you canregulate? So a plant versus a human versus a stone are largely in part as theamount and variants of chemical reactions. And so inside of every human.There's at least 25,000 different enzymes doing a variety of the things that wenever think of.

It's like how many people can really explain electricity,but how many people actually use it? And it's all good until you're out ofelectricity. Well, the enzymes are the bridge between the living and the deadand. There was a fellow by the name of dr. Edward Howell, who wrote a book calledenzyme nutrition and another one food enzymes for health and longevity, whichwas buried in the Harvard library for decades until a guy by the name ofvictorious.

Kulvinskas found it doing some health research and said, Ohmy God, look at this guy. He's actually described the modern world of what'sgoing to happen. And so how old was this guy that back in the thirties andforties? Started doing experiments on. Animals. And he started to see thatmodern culture of farming, monoculture farming, um, chemicals using the use ofchemicals, particularly after world war II, um, the cooking and processing offood and people weren't getting their food in a frustrater that is highenzymatic potential.

And so he started doing experiments on animals by feedingthem a diet that was deficient in enzymes. Basically no living food. Humans arethe only people that cook their food, anything over 114 degrees, you candescribe all the enzyme potential. So every living organism has enzymes in it.And when you feel it or kill it or consume it, you in a fresh state, you getthe enzyme potential of that.

And in addition to the protein, carbohydrates and fats, sofruits, plants. Snakes seals, elk, whatever it is, you're consuming and allspecies, please consume it in a live state and they get the enzymes. Well,unfortunately our definition of food didn't include the enzyme component of ourfood, so that misnomer, and it didn't include the probiotics that wouldnormally come with food.

Like if you take a carrot out of the garden, it's got theprobiotics that are relative to breaking that down, that live on that food thatwill actually digest that. And so we have that symbiotic relationship. We don'thave that. And so how. Feeding all these animals, deficient enzyme, deficientdiets. And by the third generation, they had strange sociological.

So behavior, the inability to procreate and a rapid increasein genetic based diseases. And he's suggested that after world war II, he madea statement and said that. Within three generations, humans would have thosesame three issues. And here we are today, the massive rise in genetic diseases.A lot of weirdness in the social world that we're all experiencing right now.

And, and look at the fertility clinics, look at theinability to procreate or the natural thing. And industrialized civilizationsprocreation drops off significantly as a social behavior changes as. Does therise in genetic illness. And so I was like, wow, there's something to this. Andso I started supplementing my diet with Exondys end zones enzymes at that time.

And they worked like magic. They fixed my digestion. Mybrain went clear. My skin was better. I had more energy. I could recoverbetter. And it was like, wow, this is just a, this is just unbelievable. Um,let me dive further and further into it. And eventually that's how we startedthe company by optimizers.

So that night.

Boomer Anderson: [00:50:15]And so was the first product masszymes or was it something else?

Wade Lightheart: [00:50:19]The product was masszymes. So what we recognized is that proteolytic enzymesare proteolytic enzyme reactions inside the body begin to diminish by the ageof 28 for most people. That's why you don't see athletes. Athletes usually peakphysically by the age of 28.

And they start to degenerate. Physically. And oftentimesthey, they, they make up for it. Yeah. Intellectual growth, which you can go ona much further trajectory before, even though they have the smarts, the body isenabled to deliver at the highest levels of performance. Those micro-changesare huge. And so we realized that proteolytic enzymes were responsible forrecovery.

For muscle building for metabolism brain function in thatundigested proteins, particularly like what was in my case is the number onecause of inflammatory reactions, whether it's allergic reactions, whether it'sskin conditions, whether it's digestive disease or the fermentation of foodsand the feeding of bad bacteria and creating this.

So I was like, let's focus on that. And so we created a kindof a 17 different enzyme concoction, uh, featured proteases all the differenttypes of proteins at the first, so that we could. Basically have something thatwould work for virtually anybody and particularly people who had focused a loton protein, or even if they were like me as a vegetarian, they didn't getenough protein.

As recognized by the training circles, which was one gramper pound of body weight, raw food diet, try and get a gram per pound of bodyvirtually impossible. You'll you'll blow up from fiber content. Yeah. So, uh,the bottom line is we were able to resolve that issue and now that's gonethrough three different upgrades, uh, over the last, uh, last number of years.

Uh, how do you guys look at fat metabolism? Cause you and Iwere chatting before and you know, traditionally people would use somethinglike ox bile. Right. And so yeah. How do you look at that?

Yeah. Great question. And so, um, When it comes to digest initself, there's three main enzyme. families' proteases, which digest proteinamylase, which digest carbohydrates, the white pages, which digest fats.

And the ironic thing about this as Matt being a ketogenicguy, I mean, being plant class, I always had an aversion for fats and my bodyjust didn't break down fats very well. Um, if I would try and attempt toketogenic diet. As soon as I would hit a certain threshold of fats, I wouldstart to see fats and fat oil literally in my stool.

And I knew that I wasn't going to make me

Boomer Anderson: [00:52:48]feel good.

Wade Lightheart: [00:52:49]Yeah. Matt who had a high sugar content content as a young man found that hisblood sugar would go crazy. If he eats too much sugar he's self-confessedaddicted, addict, sugar, as we all are. And so he, he just doesn't metabolizeit very well. I metabolize carbohydrates, no problem.

Didn't have a lot sugar in my youth. Maybe that's the case,or it could be just, my body produces more amylase based enzymes than it does.Fat-based lipase based enzymes. And so when we looked at the equation, we, wewould see with all the clients that we would coach and, and develop that theywere patterns, people that were subject to depression.

Uh, oftentimes didn't digest proteins, very well people whowere, you know, type two diabetics, almost none of them digest carbohydratesvery well and people. Um, who couldn't break down fast, like ne oftentimeswould go towards a more plant based diet lifestyle, right? We kind of go tothese natural fats.

And so when it comes to breaking down, you need to have thepresence of the enzymes, uh, which is the D there's four main lipase is thatbreak down different types of fats. You need to have significant amount ofhydrochloric acid. And the release of bile in the body, which is a kind of aconcoction of enzymes that's released, it's manufactured by the liver andreleased by the gallbladder, which will break down fats in the intestinal trackand a good microbiome.

And so Matt being the ketogenic guy, wanting to, we alwayshave these debates of which diets better with each other. Do you want it toswing me over that? I could do a ketogenic diet with him. And so he cultivatedan enzyme formulation that focused mostly on protease and lipase. Bio enhancersand then transport mechanisms.

And so we did that and then I could guess what I startedtaking that I'm like, well, let's see how much fats I can take up. And I went,blew through my previous level of fat consumption without getting the stool inmy body. And in my, like, it wasn't getting the fats in my stool. And I waslike, okay. It was just simply a lipase deficiency.

And we were able to correct that.

Boomer Anderson: [00:54:55]Amazing. Let's talk about hydrochloric acid because this is, um, You know, alot of people listening, uh, myself included at times are susceptible to wakingup. And the first thing they do is pour themselves a cup of coffee. Um,hydrochloric acid. Why is it important? And what the hell are we doing wrong?

Wade Lightheart: [00:55:16]right on. So hydrochloric acid is an essential part of the immune system. Yeah.Best of system. And first and foremost, I want to be clear that it's not, thatpeople have this big bowl of acid sitting their stomach ready to make themfood. When you go through the digestive processes, there's five stages, thetaste, touch, smell food.

Uh, if I say deal pickles and sauerkraut, your, your bodywill start to salivate. Um, You chew the food up and then it goes down theesophagus and into the upper cardiac portion of the stomach. This is where theenzymes present in the food is supposed to break it down at 30 to 60 minutes.Hydrochloric acid comes into the body.

Now in order to produce enough hydrochloric acid, you needto be properly hydrated. And with chronic dehydration being so strong for mostpeople. They don't produce enough hydrochloric. And the average 30 year old or40 year old just makes less than half of the amount of hydrochloric acid theydid when they were like 15 or 20.

So hydrochloric acid comes in at that 30 to 60 minute marksand it has two functions. Number one, it's designed to disinfect your food frombacteria, viruses, parasites, any pathogenic organism that could damage yourhealth or your immune system or your digestive function. The second thing thatit does is it changes the pH, um, from Caroline are slightly acidic all the waydown to very, very acidic, somewhere between one and two pH.

Wow. When it does this, some of the enzymes present in thefood will become activated and some will be reactivated as it goes to thevarious pH ranges. And so things like proteins, different proteins, cleave atdifferent pH levels. So it's assist in the digestive process. Those are the twofunctions of hydrochloric acid that we know of.

And ironically, if you don't produce enough hydrochloricacid, what happens is there's a little sphincter on the stop of your stomachcalled the esophageal sphincter. It'll actually stay hoping. Um, it's triggeredby enough hydrochloric acid. We'll close it. And if it's not, it'll start toferment and gas will come up and you'll get some splash up and you getheartburn or acid reflux, which is super common.

Now the ironic thing is what do you do? You go to your, yougo over the counter, you get some times you get some kind of calcium thing,buffer that asset. Yeah. You're, you're actually disrupting your natural immunesystem function and your natural digestive process. So it solves that problem,but creates another problem where you set yourself up for gut dysbiosis, forparasitical infections, for incomplete protein breakdown, all these sorts of things.

And so when you look at now, And then if that's not strongenough, what do you do? You get a prescription and you get a proton pump and,you know, PPIs,

Boomer Anderson: [00:58:05]the cycle just continues.

Wade Lightheart: [00:58:07]Yeah, you're supposed to be only on that for four to six weeks. If you look atthe medical literature and people are on this for years, and the reality is wenow live in a culture.

Where in the United States on any, any given day, there's ahundred million people suffering from digestive issues. That's a third of thepopulation. 25% of the population is using it some form of over the counterprescription medication for digestive health and 13% of the emergency hospitalvisits.

That's people going to the hospital to the emergencysituation or gastrointestinal related illnesses. A lot of this, is it becauseyou don't have enough hydrochloric? Yeah. That are improper amounts. So guesswhat? There's an simple and easy test. So any of your listeners can do this.You take a quarter ounce or a quarter teaspoon of, of baking soda stirred upand four to six ounces of water.

Drink it down. If you are on an empty stomach, if you don'tburp within five minutes, you do not have sufficient levels of hydrochloricacid. And all as you need to do is every time you eat, take a hydrochloric acidtablet. After you eat and you'll be fine. The other thing is you really want toconcentrate on hydrating.

And one of the reasons going back to your early part is. Oneof the reasons that people will typically take a coffee, let's say in themorning to kick things, start as number one is oftentimes we're using the, um,cortisol as an energy system. So we get the caffeine hit. We get a cortisoladrenaline response.

We start metabolizing that cortisol into energy units. Weget clear, we go into fight or flight mode. We activate the, you know,epinephrine, norepinephrine, and we're like, okay, I'm our lab. And, and, and.There, there is an asset response to this. So oftentimes it does help usdigest. Some of our food is, or, you know, traditionally that goes on, but lefton checked.

It creates a few feedback loop where you blow out yournervous system. You end up with the chances of have too much acid production,which. What happens if you have produced too much assets, when you leave, whenthe food leaves your stomach, you release, what's called bicarbonate buffers,which is a fancy number for alkaline minerals.

So it's kind of like your body creates a Tums to neutralizethe acid before it goes in the intestinal track. And if you don't do that, youget inflammatory conditions of the bowels gastritis. All serves these types ofthings, because you're getting an overproduction of acid and without sufficientamount of balancing that aspect when it comes out of the intestinal tract.

Boomer Anderson: [01:00:42]So in terms of sequencing, should people be thinking about this in terms ofwhen they're having their meals? Obviously, you know, watch the coffee in themorning, but, uh, having your meals mass times before their meal and thenhydrochloric acid after, is that the right sequence?

Wade Lightheart: [01:01:00]Exactly.

Boomer Anderson: [01:01:01]Okay. Exactly. And then if you were to, so leaky gut is an extremely commonproblem and people, a lot of people have it.

Right. We can stereotype there. How would you, if you weresomebody who was concerned that they had leaky gut, what sort of protocol wouldyou look at?

Wade Lightheart: [01:01:21]Great. Great. Great question. And we're going to go generalization here. Ofcourse, we're not, we're not here to treat or diagnose any medical conditions,but I can say from the lot of people that we've experienced, there's twothings.

There's a couple, there's two different camps. I thinkthat's emerged. There's the. A vegetarian camp and there's the vegan camp. Ithink that intermittent fasting is a great start, I think. Um, and I thinkthat's common everybody or periods of fasting so that your body can start torepair cause your body repairs things very well.

Second thing is making sure you're providing the rightprebiotics that will allow the good bacteria to formulate in your system. Ifyou know, if you're taking diet. If you're taking probiotics. Okay. Thelifespan of a probiotic has maybe 24 hours if it doesn't have food. So forexample, if you look at let's take Matt and myself as examples, if you were totake a sample of his microbiome versus a sample of mine, we have completelydifferent microbiomes.

We need to eat foods that are relative to our genetics andour, and our, this, you know, this symbiotic relationship of, you know, 200 to500 strains of bacteria, which are essential symbiotic relationship that allowsus to live. Your diet will choose that. So foundation had the right probioticsfor your diet, with the right prebiotics number, add intermittent fasting.

If you have a lot of challenges, also add a things likeAlovera regularly as, as a, as a shooter in the mornings to kind of smooththings out and also find it as a prebiotic and as a disinfecting. And then youcan go down. A lot of people find a lot of benefit from like bone broth,collagen type of dietary practices.

If you're more on the, if you're okay with the meatproducts, if you're not, um, and this isn't for vegans, it's more forvegetarian. Yeah. You can use a, uh, an egg based product called IgG. Max it'sa patented product. And basically it's, it's, it's, it's a patch for your guts.It allows your body to put things together, to start to put, to fix the holesin your gut.

And we have a team of researchers that work for us, which wetest the products that we're doing, how well it works. And so. Funny, youshould mention this because we just we're actually coming out with a productcalled leaky gut and we have a veggie, a vegetarian version in it, and a key

Boomer Anderson: [01:03:44]for everyone listening.

He did not tell me to do this beforehand.

Wade Lightheart: [01:03:47]That's so funny. You should ask that because it is an issue that we've we'vewe've solved digestion. Across the board, you know, enzymes Clark acid andprobiotics are going to solve your digestive issues for 90% of the people forlongterm serious conditions.

You're going to probably have to get some specializationwith some fasting. Some Alovera, some probiotics prebiotics, probably go get agut flora test and something that's going to patch that you can go down themeat eating way. Uh, or you can go down the vegetarian side of things to patchthat up and for Vegas.

Um, and a lot of vegans actually get into Vega, thevegetarian diet, or a vague and diet because of gut issues and restrict theirway to a certain point. But at the, at the end of the, they don't fix theunderlying causes and leaky gut is a big common one. Yeah. You might want tosoften your stance a little bit too, to bring yourself back to that before yougo to the extreme.

Boomer Anderson: [01:04:43]Wade the third, there are many different avenues. We can take this conversationand I'm going to have you back for round two because, uh, the, you and I havehad previous conversations on parasites and we don't even, we haven't even gonethere yet. Uh, what I want to do now is transition into a final series ofquestions, just kind of rapid fire.

If you don't mind, um, what excites you most about thatworld today?

Wade Lightheart: [01:05:09]Oh, wow. Um, the fact that we can do specific testing and we can customizedietary choices for the individual where they are in the world and what theywant to achieve. So if you're a high performing executive, we can develop a programaround that.

If you're, uh, A training athlete. If your mom at home orsomeone who just wants to have better longterm health, um, you can getcustomized information direct to your door, privatized coaching and specificsystems, dietary practices, and, and alternative practices, whether that's homesaunas and electromagnetic machines or brain training, there's just this vastarray in the biohacking world.

That's allowing us to really tap into the potential that wehave as humans and the ability to communicate that information to us via.Podcasts such as this

Boomer Anderson: [01:05:57]amazing, uh, top trick for enhancing focus.

Wade Lightheart: [01:06:02]Oh, without a doubt. 40 years of Zen. Okay.

Boomer Anderson: [01:06:06]That's a, that's a good one. A book which has changed your life the most.

Wade Lightheart: [01:06:14]Power versus force by David Hawkins, where he illustrates the map ofconsciousness, probably in that's a precursor to the rest of his series.Probably the greatest book in human existence. I'm trying to,

Boomer Anderson: [01:06:26]I have another David Hawkins book right over here. And I was just trying toremember the name of it.

It's a, I can't remember the saran

Wade Lightheart: [01:06:32]color.

Boomer Anderson: [01:06:33]Is it.

Wade Lightheart: [01:06:34]A yellow. Oh, letting go,

Boomer Anderson: [01:06:36]letting go. That's it. So exactly. So I knew there was surrender in the title,but it's a fantastic book. Um, one last question. I typically only asked three,but one last question, just given the time we live in and just giving yourexperience top trip or top trick, not trip, uh, for people who are now justgetting into this whole concept of digital nomad and forced digital nomadic.

Wade Lightheart: [01:07:01]It really comes down to having a routine. Develop that you can perform at home.I think the biggest adjustment is which you're moving from office situation toa, a personalized program is that we humans, we, we run on routines. And so forme, it was having someone it'll just schedule out to matter where I am, whereI'm going to happen, that I wake up in the morning and I look at my calendarand I know I have a meeting at nine one 10 31 at 1131 at 12.

With whoever, whenever that I've got that scheduling and alsoinside of that. I have a routine that works for me. As far as my self care selfcare, there is every bit as important as your business care because you're theeffectiveness that you have inside your business is directly correlated to howwell you take care of your health.

And as we age, it becomes even more and more pronounced. Andso. I have my morning routine where I do my, the meditation. I do my exercise.I have my, all my nutritional supplement intake. That is really essential toget me going. Um, my quiet time, my affirmations, uh, and some exercise,everything I take care of my health first.

So when. I show up in my morning. I like to start mybusiness day at 9:00 AM. I am wherever I am in the world. I'm on fire at thatmoment. And I get up maybe. Yeah, yeah. Five or six. So for me, I need thatthree, four hours to get all that stuff in. And then now. I've got nothing toworry about the rest of the day.

I'm focused on like, I think if we need to go to 11 o'clocktonight, I'm ready to go to 11 o'clock tonight. No problem. I don't have theenergy requirements and I have all the components throughout the day to keep meat that high performer pace all day long. So I've got all my nutritional stuff.I got my new trophics.

I've got my practices. I've got my little recess basis,built it in and I've cultivated that over. You know, decades of time, but youneed to find out what works for you. Matt got a different routine than I do.And cause he works here. He's more of a night guy. I'm more of a morning guy. Soyou need to know what your chronotype is, what your lifestyle is, what yourgoals are and never, ever, ever, ever compromise your health regardless ofwhere you are, where you go.

Cause it's going to bite you in the butt.

Boomer Anderson: [01:09:19]Boom. I love that. Wade, where can people find out more about you and yourcompany? And because obviously they're gonna want to try the products. Yeah.

Wade Lightheart: [01:09:28]Yeah. bioptimizers.com. Uh, you can reach us. We're on Facebook. We've got theawesome health podcasts or kind of interview all the people that mentor me inmy life.

Cause I don't know all this stuff I'm learning as well.Instagram, Facebook, it's all that stuff you type in. BiOptimizers you'll kindof find all of that said if you have questions, answers, all that sort ofstuff. Um, you're more than welcome to go in. I literally answer every singlequestion in the company about health, uh, to the best of my ability.

And so we, we do that. Yeah. Then I guess the other thing isif you want to go and check us out at bioptimizers.com/boomer, you can put inboomer 10 as a code, and you'll get a discount on any of our products andservices. And we want to caveat that we have an awesome health course that wegive away, which is literally.

84 days, five to 15 minute videos where people look at thepractices and things that I've learned to apply to my own life. It's not allabout supplements and stuff. It's just about the people I learned from thepractices I learned. How do I. Master this in a 15 minute, a day routine and,uh, yeah, ongoing from that.

So it's really that simple,

Boomer Anderson: [01:10:31]beautiful, well, thank you for, well, really the time this education process,but also the products like I use mass times, I use HCL and I also like, I lovethe magnesium product. We even get into that. Like you somehow solved mymassive problem with carrying around four or five bottles of magnesium everyday.

Uh, With just one simple bottle. So thank you so much. Ireally appreciate it. Thank you very much.

Wade Lightheart: [01:10:56]It was my pleasure.

Boomer Anderson: [01:10:58]Awesome. To all the superhumans listening out there have an absolutely Epicday.

All right. So I enjoyed that conversation with Wade and Ididn't expect it to go the way I did. We talked extensively about travel evenmore so before I clicked record and his journey was spirituality to me isfascinating as I embark on my own. If you want to check out the show notes tothis one, it's at decoding superhuman.com/bioptimizers also linked there whereyou can get your free mass signs products to try out.

Because like I said, I use the product every day and this isfree guys. I'm not. Trying to sell anything here, head on over to decodingsuperhuman.com/bioptimizers and hope you enjoyed this conversation with Wadelightheart.